Daisy: I dont even think many of these megachurches are really about Jesus or religion. I hope that Grace Chapel moves toward healing, and provides an example the rest of us can use. Narcissists technically can feel empathy, but they choose not to, Like the unofficial distinction between a psychopath and a sociopath: Christian Industrial Complex personality cults mega-mania doing church without God, Ava Aaronson: I have no time for theatrics. I feel VERY strongly about this, I know how much transgender women have been harassed by the righteous and NO, NOBODY chooses to be transgender. 19-year-old Josiah Berger died Friday night at Vanderbilt University Medical Center from injuries sustained in a wreck Tuesday night. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Its not completely off topic. ! Daisy: Though I am not a liberal, I largely agreed with liberal author J. K. Rowlings position on this matter in this open letter she wrote: Sorry, J.K. Rowling is no liberal. The mind boggles at the very selective compassion practiced by some Christians. None of this has happened at this point. Low 37F. This guys been infamous for a couple decades as a walking dumpster fire/train wreck in various fandoms. But yet, were on a blog that (rightly) is concerned for the sexual or spiritual abuse of biological females (or biological males) in or by church people. Sarah Berger, wife of Grace Chapel founder Steve Berger, speaks during a contentious service Sunday morning, Aug. 29, 2021, at Grace Chapel in Franklin, Tennessee. They both make everyone out to be some kind of nut or go on some emotional rant about the evils of everyone with any kind of different belief system. They are moneymaking institutions for the benefit of their leadership. He and other leaders said the transition had been in the works for several years. The announcement comes after a chaotic Sunday morning service in which Sarah Berger accused the church's newly appointed lead Pastor Rob Rogers and executive Pastor Mark Bright of trying to "cancel" Berger, while also painting him as a "Christian extremist. That poor Christian baker who was sued over not wanting to bake a gay wedding cake a few years ago, was again sued a few months ago (or year ago? A psychopath cannot tell the difference between right and wrong. Grace Chapel has not made its recording of the service publicly available. He added, "One of the things that is helpful about the new structure is because there is a much higher level of accountability for leadership, it preemptively lowers the chances of that happening.". I understand that humans make mistakes, and that everyone should be given the opportunity to change and turn away from harmful actions. They dont really care about helping children, its all about image (look how wonderful and giving I am to feed orphaned kids!), and getting Likes on Facebook for such content. devon horse show 2021. Not when you *will* get harassed or even killed by people who see transgender people as threats. Changing your name by mistake, because you want to use a new, better, slightly different name, or some other innocuous reason will still get you moderated. Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. Our church exists to point people to Jesus, connect them with a community, and equip them to make a difference. although from some comments, we find out that some people walk away from the Church because, for them, its not mean enough . Perhaps it is just me, but I cannot get the Wayback Machines link to fully load. Grace Chapel whose members have included Gov. Bergers FB page has a letter announcing he is resigning from the elder board is leaving Grace Chapel, and will not preach there again. then home-made whipped cream on top. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. linda: I wonder how those anti vax pastors will manage when the butts are in the grave, not in the pew? Possible, nothing. Will you do the same? In one offering made during two services on that Sunday morning three days after Thanksgiving, members of the congregation made big sacrifices. 10 junio 2022 . Id just remind people that Jesus said nothing (that we know of) about LGBTQIA persons. May God receive glory as the church is healed and the truth is made manifest See all 10 photos taken at Grace Chapel, Leipers Fork by 366 . Some may even still believe that God is going to overthrow the government and install the former guy. Daisy: another source says that the biological women inmates are also being given Plan B once the men who identify as women are housed with women inmates, because the prison officials are expecting the transwomen (bio men) to rape the bio women. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Pastor Steve Berger (center) sits with Gov. Berger was not forced out because of his political views or that he is an Extremist Christian. Sadly, they are all too reflective of the vitriol within too many people.. Explains a lot. https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/. Maybe that trickled down to present-day churches. Feature not a bug. Video screengrab. Bri: Yes, they founded the church and were leading it for 27 years. There is more going on at Grace Chapel than power struggles and hurt feelings, way more, but I will get to that in a minute. Even back then, while I was immersed in fundamentalism, their inconsistencies/heresies/dogmatism stated to become apparent to me so, one could argue that the fundamentalist did teach me to trust the Biblical narrative over them! That linda at that time told me unequivocally that I, a single woman, cannot and should not ever even think about asking any married man for help in any way. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Much of the American church has been swept up by stagecraft, with the Great God Entertainment sitting on the throne. Big red flag. I'd rather them not be allowed to participate (even though they do). Chronic pain is so wearying, and sometimes its difficult to find Pain Dr.s who arent just into doing lucrative procedures. Bill Lee announced Oct. 25 that it is adopting several recommendations that it received from a third-party consultant to restructure church governance. Though I am not a liberal, I largely agreed with liberal author J. K. Rowlings position on this matter in this open letter she wrote: I agree If not, I apologize for my following comments; if youre not the same linda, the following is not applicable to you, please disregard. In fact, many of yall have sent it to me, upset about the lack of accountability, the defensiveness, and the refusal to condemn white supremacy in this post. There was trust and, specifically, of the leadership and eldership of Grace Chapel, that had been broken," Rob Rogers, Grace Chapels senior pastor, said in an interview. The situation has become so strange and extreme. There is no way we can remain in this congregation knowing that at the very helm, Rob Rogers and Mark Bright have been working behind the scenes to literally cancel us. Again, time permitting, I may occasionally being doing posts about this over at my Daisy blog. As opposed to the Body of Christ. Its too easy to use a bad example to discredit a whole group. Grace Chapel Leipers Fork - Ministry Leaders Rick Cua - Pastoral Care/Visitation Ron Gonser - Pastoral Care/Visitation Myron Goodwin - Missions/Adult Equipping Pastor Dave Buehring - Men's Pastor Bill Cannon - Children's Pastor Jimmy Harris - Life Group Pastor Brian Ray - College and Career Pastor/Facilities Manager . Wild Honey: This is PURE speculation on my part, but the (patriarchal) antebellum south had large plantations run by a master and mistress.. Theres a great difference between men pounding Scripture into you vs. allowing the Holy Spirit to teach you Truth. (Sorry, not sorry. All Leipers Fork is good for is painting classes and Puckett's original restaurant. See what employees say it's like to work at Grace Chapel in Leipers Fork. Life on Mission: They teach that God doesnt care about your feelings, so why should they? I think even the Grandmas are mean-spirited now! As of Monday, Ashley's story remains unaltered. While Rogers described the cease and desist letter as an appeal rather than a demand, the letter, written by Larry Crain of Crain Law Group, includes the following excerpt: "On behalf of my client, I am hereby making demand that you publicly retract these statements forthwith and that you cease and desist from making or publishing any false statements in the future regarding Grace Chapel.". This is absolutely dripping with condescension. (Of course ignoring the hemophiliacs and heterosexuals, because getting AIDS wasnt just a matter of sex.) Bill Lees church) - during service Sarah Berger accuses pastor Rob Rogers & Mark Bright of cancelling her husband Steve (founding pastor) feed cut, physical altercation ensued allegedly. The Church: In 2010, Steve Berger, head pastor of the Grace Chapel mega-church in Leiper's Fork, Tennessee, co-wrote a book with his wife Sarah titled Have Heart: Bridging the Gulf Between Heaven and Earth. Thats because socio-economic status trumps gender in complementarianism (and patriarchy), though youd be hard-pressed to hear a modern complementarian acknowledge this. This may come out awkwardly, and is not meant to minimize your struggles. I'm sure many of you have seen the press statement released by Pastor Steve Berger of Grace Chapel Church in Franklin, TN concerning his participation in the events of the January 6th violent assault on the Capitol. 3 days ago Web The mission of Grace Christian Academy is to partner with Christian families in the education of their children by providing them a community that is distinctly Christian, Staff Directory Grace Christian Academy is a private preK-12 Christian school in Franklin, TN. If one extreme is in error, that doesnt make the other correct, nor does the existence of one extreme justify taking the other extreme. Yes, and the meanness is widely known because hate-preachers do everything in their power to make sure the whole world knows about it. Hot Chicken, Disc Golf, Music, Traffic, Press J to jump to the feed. We are here to follow Jesus, be changed by Jesus, and live on mission with Jesus. Daisy: Its possible he has N.P.D. Let this fade away and everyone go back to the original topic. I see hope for the Grace Chapel congregation in Steve Bergers attempt in January to back pedal. Here is just one post of a few Ive done on the subject: Steve Berger resigns from Grace Chapel Elder Board following chaotic church service, Five Free and Cheap Family Things To Do in Middle Tennessee, Future Smith Park mountain bike trail moves forward, Franklin Fire investigating cause of Tuesday afternoon house fire, Tanner leads Brentwood Academy to DII-AA state semifinals, Freeman: Marsha Blackburn ignoring news media means ignoring constituents, As State Legislation Targets the LGBTQ Community, Pride Celebrations Adapt, Montgomery's 25-point night leads Independence to Region 6-4A title over Hillsboro, Father Ryan's Pat Simpson named National Prep Wrestling Coach of the Year. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. REQUEST TO REMOVE Leipers Fork, Tennessee (TN) @USA They also announced that Rogers had been reinstated as pastor of the church, despite his earlier resignation. The full response can be viewed below. The depth of political mixing with Christianity in the US going to have allot of long term, painful, consequences. Most of us still learn by the great teacher Experience, but it would have been an easier row to hoe if we had our ears tuned to the Greatest Teacher. Another POV, everything to do with inner mans empty black hole of depravity using others to build a personal dynasty INSTEAD of being filled with the love. That kind of poison leads to suicides and murders, with the anti-transgender activists showing no mercy, just like the anti-gay types from the 1980s and 1990s. I made the corrections. I dont know why, but this just *hurts*. California is already in the process of allowing bio men who ID as women into womens prisons and the officials there are handing out condoms to the bio women. That is a worthy question. Then they set fire to and burn the great majority claiming to be the good guy who actually is a very small minority. I think her open letter was perfectly reasonable. When I think of the word churchgoer now, my mental picture is more like an angry guy yelling that Im on my way to Hell. I could see where the bottom links (about Gracie alleging her church / Christian school covered up for her father sexually assaulting her, or failed to report it or what not) could be the focus. Then, at thatAug. 29 church service, members of the board of elders and Rogers spoke to address the conflict between Berger and the church's senior leadership team that was previously private. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Actually, its not, because (a) the American Left is *tiny* compared to the American Religious Right and (b) within the American Left there is a huge amount of suspicion of religion because lefties (such as they are) have seen what the Religious Right has done and want nothing to do with it. Muff Potter: Its no secret that an overwhelming majority of white evangelicals are very much into right-wing politics. You can research Narcissism online to find out more, if you like). I believe a true leader and follower of Jesus Christ, would graciously admit to the entirety of his mistakes, not just pick and choose in order to make himself not seem culpable. He said the couple would keep praying for the church and said he back his wifes statements.
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