After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Great read with invaluable data and information. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The one at 3811 spin carried 8.3 yards further. They were measured with GPS. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? [/quote] The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? God how I loved playing golf. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [/quote] By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. Yes! Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. [/quote] The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. That smash factor surprises me a bit. Bump up your confidence around the greens. I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees.The following table looks at the AMA versus what is optimal., *Carry, Landing Angle, and Total were normalized under 0 alti- tude, 75F, and 75% humidity for the AMA to create an apples to apples comparison. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Smash Factor 1.475 The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. Tiger Woods trackman They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. Trackman Figures from Some Tour Players - The Sand Trap .com Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) [quote name='J.W.' Fan Mail Justin Thomas I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 It will make it a lot easier to give a qualified answer if we have all the numbers :-). Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. DShawn Johnson It has to do with my ability. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. [/quote] I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in See how The Honda Classic Justin - Michael Cooney Golf For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Since SM6 Vokeys have evolved subtly to be exactly what tour players want. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Your email address will not be published. [/color] This put him near the bottom of the pack. endobj Jordan Spieth WITB 2022 (September) GolfWRX Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high [/quote] I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. That's what I think. And when it comes to how far Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest iron player of all time, hits his irons? If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] How to Hit Massive Drives! Club Head Speed 119.55 Apex Height 112' 11" [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. Your previous content has been restored. [/quote] Try a par 3 course (18 holes) of any length and compare your results to your handicap. How Far Should Beginners Hit A Golf Ball? it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. 3. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Am I as good as tour pro? Obviously not. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] I can't seem to find them. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. Length is nothing. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? The data results given in this article are completely skewed. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. More photos from the event here. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. Not As Much As You Think! Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. First of all, I would always encourage any golfer to get custom fitted for Titleist Vokey wedges because the loft/bounce/grind chart can be very confusing. Pasted as rich text. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? Hi Gerry. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. And that was 12 years ago. Either way I don't care. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! [/quote] [/quote] My average club separation is about 15 yards. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) The following is Torrey Pines South, where golfers line up each morning for a chance to play one of Americas 100 Greatest Public Courses (Golf Digest). I am still unsure of how a higher handicapper can benefit as much other than having higher bounce in a wedge. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. Smash Factor 1.475 They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). Close suggestions Search Search Search Search beginer level female golfer how to to benefit ths..is this correct this tracker.. Love all of this data and seeing exactly what the correlation is between the data and player performance! pleased to hear you are enjoying it now though. 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Tee and Approach Shots! [/quote] Maybe for one swing he got there. Obviously not. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Am I as good as tour pro? That's what I think. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s.