Fortunately my friend stopped the girl when her hand was in the pocket. The dealer has one or two other scammers working with him pretending to be players, and who run interference to stop you winning. Since we had a considerable amount of naivety, we accepted. I know it’s a scam because 20 different people have the exact same card: they’re homeless with 2 kids and no job. On one occasion the lady, a friend of ours, was walking into her building at night after work and a robber followed her in the apartment complex and robbed her at knifepoint. There are some 2,000 Roma living in Marseille, France - most of them on the streets, or in camps. Paris is one of the most beautiful cities you can explore in I was lierally a second or so from losing my as I grabbed it off the ‘fake’ customer who then just got up and left. id also like to point out that this is not just about, Roms, Roma etc… its also about general scammers and thieves. I found this site when trying to figure this one: On the RER-A train, a lady boarded with 2 dogs, she walked her car through the car, turned to face everyone and said a little speech (in French, which I did not understand), then came back through the car with her dogs, hand extended, clearly expecting money (I didn’t see anyone pay her) and got off at the next stop. many of my friends in paris always empty their pockets of change. When rejected, ‘Mom’ sends in the 7 year old to try a different tact, “No Home!”. Watch as the female tourist get surrounded by bracelet scammers. For centuries, the Romani Gypsies have been misunderstood and persecuted in Europe. They are well known for their music and influence on flamenco dance. We paid him. The whole point is to distract you whilst the machine is giving the tickets which you actually paid for, yet he claimed to pay for them. Sure, you can still find lovely corners of typical French loveliness but I’m not going back unless it’s for work. FYI France 12.73 FYI France Resource List: "Gypsies in France, 1566-2013" by Jack Kessler, [email protected] Gypsies : not a new "problem"... although a recurring and sometimes a … Whenever you are riding a metro you do need to pay close attention to your luggage and know where your valuable belongings are. My wife and I have been followed home a few times, but fortunately managed to avoid any ambush by taking this action. So they stripped me from my 100 euros and almost took the rest of my British pounds. Hungary, Yugoslavia, and Bulgaria also had large Romani communities. These people roam the area with large key chains full of Eiffel tower trinkets, or sell cheap water and/or beer on a hot day. You will be approached by a young woman and asked “Do you speak English?” If you co-operate and say “Yes”, they will either share a rehearsed storyline, which will be an attempt to tug at your heart strings, and at the end ask you for money. It was so true, perfect pitch, sending lovely echos down the hall! They will chase you down as you are walking away, demanding their money. I saved for almost 10 years for this trip. The second experience we had was very similar except this time it was a young teenage girl and a boy who would have been no older than 10 years of age. We had breakfast yesterday at Coquelicot which is a great bakery http://www.coquelicot-montmartre.com/en/ Don’t bother. A great list. The jogger pretends to stumble into the tourist, apologizes and helps the tourist back onto their feet. In the meantime an accomplice is in the process of stealing their luggage while the tourist is distracted, or the runner takes off with some of the luggage while the distraction is taking place. Honestly, anyone who prefers Paris to Budapest is insane. Essentially a form of extortion with a threat of physical violence. I am an australian citizen but consider my self as a local when it comes to knowing about paris. 2) The Starving Student Architect… The same occurance happened today at the same station, with a different man. Just right after we left Louvre, two gypsie girls approached asking for signatures. You will commonly see the Roma Gypsy beggars on the Champs Elysees, usually on their knees face down with a sign placed in front of them, or maybe just a collection hat or plate. This is a news article which tells a story of the Paris police commissioner being assaulted by a group of these scammers. You may be asked to put out your finger or expose your wrist, and they will proceed to plait a piece of cotton around your wrist or finger. Some Roma are Christian and some are Muslim, having converted during the course of their migrations through Persia, Asia Minor, and the Balkans. Tip: If you wish to impress your date then by all means buy her a flower. Paris is a beautiful city and the goal for your stay is to have an amazing time. ‘No’ is a Universal word and they will get the picture immediately. Some of the time these guys are running because they are not only trading illegally but are in fact illegal immigrants. The home of gypsy jazz in France. there are are a number of slums around paris which little home made shanties. They sometimes wait outside hotels for unsuspecting tourists pretending to be cabs. The number of truly nomadic Roma was on the decline in many places by the early 1900s, although many so-called sedentary Roma often moved seasonally, depending on their occupations. Most of the Roma in Germany and the countries occupied by Germany during World War II belonged to the Sinti and Roma family groupings. According to these estimates, at least 12,000 Romani live in unofficial urban camps throughout the country, with French authorities often attempting to close them. So at this point there was a lot of yelling/honking but the man insisted and actually tried to throw a punch in my face, meanwhile the females were still blocking the car & threatening to break the side mirrors. also a big problem is that many of the gypsys dont have a home country to send them back to or it very hard to find out where they come from as they dont necessarily come from Roma, they could have originated in any number of European countries but wont disclose it to police and dont have passports. Disgusting. In our case he handed it to us. Firstly, Gypsies formed a tiny percentage of the population in 19th C England. The NYTimes shines a light on the persistence of discrimination in France against the Roma people, also known as gypsies, who are there illegally. This is not a scam as such just someone offering to help you out then ask for money. I read your blog a few hours too late…I just got the Sleight-of-Hand Gambling scam in Montmatre by the Sacre Cœur….I would have not approached this group of people, except that there was this woman there, and that made me feel safer (I’m a woman traveling with my son) If you do sign the partition they will then ask you how much you wish to donate to them. I spoke to the taxi driver and he said it is now happening commonly. My wife just got ATM scammed. In France, they are referred to as gitanes, in Spain they are called gitanos, and in Germany, zigeuner. Make sure you are not being followed, and if you think you are step into the nearest hotel or shop. they either have look out or a extremely fast. Some of the most romantic spots in Paris are the ones which are the cheapest. According to Sway, "Gypsy deportations from England, France, Portugal, and Spain created the genesis of Gypsy life in the New World." But life has gotten harder for the Romany gypsies in the last few months. Romani law establishes that the man's family must pay a bride price to the bride's parents, but only traditional families still follow it. If you have a zip pocket at all, this would be your best bet to preserve your wallet and everything in it. Tip: When you are having a picnic in Paris or just relaxing, never completely drop your guard. He was wearing a lanyard, which we didn’t see up close. thanks for the heads up. These sellers or vendors will first lay a sheet on the ground and place their merchandise on top in a way which means they will be able to make a quick getaway if necessary. Greg, Someone sleeping nearby hardly appears to be a threat, but this is the perfect situation for a ‘sleeping’ purse snatcher to assess their prey. On September 21, 1939, Reinhard Heydrich, head of the Reich Security Main Office, met with Security Police (Sipo) and Security Service (SD) officials in Berlin. I told him our hotel and asked him how much would it cost and he said Not much and drove on. I have even seen two cats lying on a dog. Every where I went (I am a woman travelling by myself) I was approached by someone trying to rob me, and I prided myself on not being a victim. Europe. its at this point that they simply begin their journey back to paris. I know Paris has always had it’s dodgy side but it is now way too common. I love Paris, but this is VERY, VERY disappointing. Europeans have long portrayed the Roma/Gypsies as cunning … They put on a bloody good act. The Roma have one of the most dramatic stories in human history, but few people really know their ancient tale of travel, persecution and survival. It’s been devastating. They intimidated me and told me there were gonna be consequences. He will then ask another person and then come back to you asking for 5 Euro, the cost of the rose. The scammer is very practiced at hiding the white spot, yet even if you are about to choose the right one you will be prevented from doing so by his team mates. if they jump on the train and do this without asking for money they are often preaching a religion or belief. It asks for 1€ or 2€ or a ticket restaurant- or ‘ticket restoring’ on the English side (the same mistake is on every card, as well as ‘childs’ instead of ‘children’). But once we were at the auto ticket station, he approached again and ‘helped’. The Gipsy Kings threw two styles into the pot and pulled out the genre known nowadays as “gipsy”, their very own contribution to international music. Unfortunately they have never met my wife and the wrath that they incurred was too much and they fled. When you are playing the game they will swoop and take your disk if you are about to win, and claim that they have won. In France, studies show that the general level of hostility against Roma communities – in which the public often groups Roma who are French citizens as … Don’t get caught out; things in Paris are rarely free. Anyway, when someone is distracting you, you can be sure there’s another one standing behind you that you don’t notice. We politely refused (us being two girls in an empty station), and he came back again and again. they also claim to be reputable artists and when you hand over the fee that they ask which i guess is your decision as you can always give them back what you have not paid for yet, but that means remonstrating in front of your loved one and causing a scene. In 1607, Henry IV enjoyed Gypsy dancers at court. I went to the ATM machine but once I returned I realized what was going on and told him that he had just stolen my money and that I wanted it back…I took their picture with my cell phone (only got 2 out Of the 4) and told them that i was going straight to the police. We were about 10 mins or less from our hotel but the taxi driver told us it’s about 45 mins and would cost about 75 euros .while driving he began writing a receipt for 84 euros and handed me the receipt . if you say no and don’t pay – they threaten to break the wiper or mirror. This is an all too familiar sight in Paris and you will often see them with dogs and cats. Brilliant article, really helped. Once they see you type the number the card is more valuable to steal than the cash you’re taking out. Ill finally found one euro, opened the window a bit, the kids were screaming -10euro,10euro. Tip: If you are going to buy from street vendors, which I don’t recommend, then understand that they should settle for less than the original price they gave you. Thing is this was my third time in Paris, I hadn’t been in 15 years, and it did NOT used to be like this. We saw 3 children who were no older than 11 years of age, walking up to various people and showing them a piece of torn newspaper. If not, then move on to the next street seller. Gypsies deemed to be illegally in France boarded planes for Romania today. Virginity is essential in unmarried women. These are straight up extorting you in full daylight, threatening with physical violence (car but also you in person), how is this possible?? The place is rammed upstairs and there are scum bags sitting waiting to order whilst trying to steal your bags. I have seen this in Montmartre only, but I have been told by friends that they have seen it worked elsewhere. If you have ever been to Europe then you have probably heard or seen this scam. I advise all tourists to head to Central Europe instead. We would like to thank Crown Family Philanthropies and the Abe and Ida Cooper Foundation for supporting the ongoing work to create content and resources for the Holocaust Encyclopedia. A) “No”, with a horizontal ‘wave-off’ and no eye contact, works on most. Many Roma traditionally worked as craftsmen and were blacksmiths, cobblers, tinsmiths, horse dealers, and toolmakers. 10) The bracelet. There are several major obstacles to obtaining objective information about Gypsy lifestyle in the 19th century. they probably wouldn’t have done anything. The French are either too PC or apathetic, or both? As seen in the photo above, it’s hard to believe this is Paris, France. I must admit I felt bad as he was supplying a service and was good at it and quite comical but he should have told us from the very start instead of insisting to follow him as I would have declined as i did not honestly have any money . There we saw a number of timber dwellings just under the ring road itself and a little way further on the freeway were half a dozen gypsy men and women ( one young girl watching) attempting to wash car windows. We were stationary at the traffic stop and saw two females and a bigger male running directly towards us through the traffic (they must have seen a foreign license plate & relatively new car that I borrowed for the roadtrip). It was madness: one female was actually standing in full front of the car, preventing us from driving off for when the light would turn green, the other female was pulling and pushing with some force on the right wing mirror, the guy would be extremely aggressive and punching the car/mirror/window with his window wiper – on a damaging level. I would stand outside the Moulin Rouge waiting to pick up my wife every night, and the same guy would ask me every night if I would like to buy a flower. if anyone of your reader going through that route – click pics or make a video – that might come handy in case reporting to police or worst case claiming for damages from insurance company. Zigeuner, the German word for Gypsy, derives from a Greek root meaning untouchable. I can tell you from experience, and I have been required to do this a number of times, the best way to avoid this behaviour being aimed at you is not to engage in any kind of eye contact and to avoid any verbal interaction other than the word NO!!! He was obviously targeting the iPhone. I can’t believe that they let them continue with this robbery. They were called "Gypsies" because Europeans mistakenly believed they came from Egypt. Us being first time travellers and our first day, we paid him. While they are not aggressive will not bother you while you go about sightseeing or passing through, they definitely fit into the beggars list for this post. Today, we got scammed eith the guy who changes the cups and you have to guess where the ball is. My boss once told that there is also a copywrite issue involved when producing and selling Eiffel tower replicas, and that this is a very good reason why they run. They can’t make victims of everyone. I was in Paris today and found another violent act of mugging at the signal near Port de la chapelle. Megan and I laugh when they all pack up their goods and start running when someone spots a police officer. As for the taxies i have heard about this in other European countries however have not heard about it in Paris. Paris is a multicultural city and it will continue to degenerate and become even more dangerous. Metro Buskers usually stay for one song and 2 or three train stops. The manadiers, cattle ranchers, dressed in their traditional outfits, sit astride beautiful white horses. I wish I had read your blog before going for a walk in Montmatre. if you trust that they need help and what to assist then why not. I took off running (it was the fastest and longest I’ve ran in years!) It seems unkind especially to a clueless unsuspecting foreigner. In 1939, about 1 to 1.5 million Roma lived in Europe. If you are aware of these prior to visiting Paris then it could go a long way to having a more enjoyable stay. They were targeting vulnerable people particularly women and if they did not pay sufficiently attempted to break their windscreen wipers and banging hard on the glass windows. Oh man thats a really disappointment Amir, im sorry to hear you got caught out. All the trinkets these guys offer are imported from china and sold to these venders illegally. The children then started spitting and yelling at me, but eventually left. So where did they come from? How this can become a scam is when a shady flower man gives a flower to a girl and says “flower for a pretty lady”. The other occasion was when another friend was about 10 meters away from walking through a door to start basketball training with our team. In return she will ask for a few dollars in exchange for her kindness, a finder fee. Others were performers such as musicians, circus animal trainers, and dancers. Then a couple of weeks later we saw her buying beer after beer at the local Irish pub. But having lived in Paris for a while whenever I see them get onto the train I instantly cringe. I you want to busk in Paris then you need to apply for a permit and you have to specify times and places where you will perform. This is one of the more aggressive scams in Paris, and you really need to be on the lookout. I have only ready about this method of thievery but never seen it, so unfortunately I can’t offer much advice. Skip to 1m40sec to see this lady perform her scam. I got so sick of it and went ahead and activated my Eurail pass to get the heck out of Paris. I dropped a few francs as I walked by, (A while ago!). I would also like to start by saying that I have given loose change to some homeless people on occasion. Tip: Find a good seat and check out the theatrics of his inside men. I’m happy they didn’t take our iPhone or wallet. My wife made a point off sticking two fingers point blank a quarter of an inch in front of the girls eyes and yelling obscenities at her. We didn’t have any issues or felt unsafe anywhere else. Greetings from germany, and sorry for my english.. What is seriously being done to rid Paris/Nice etc…. I have compiled a list of 17 ways in which you could scammed or taken advantage of by Gypsies, Thieves or beggars in Paris. TTY: 202.488.0406, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Washington, DC, Voices on Antisemitism Podcast: Petra Gelbart, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Library bibliography: Sinti and Roma (“Gypsies”), Teaching Materials on Antisemitism and Racism, European Roma Rights Centre (external link), Holocaust Survivors and Victims Resource Center. I wasnt sure about my exit Strategy, iam pretty sure that if i had reacted aggressive myself, they had destroyed something at the car and had ran off.
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